S1 EP01 - Try Pride in a Small Town w/ Morgxn
Kashif
Hello everyone, my name is Kashif.
Blake
My name is Blake.
Kashif
And you're listening to Who's Gonna Be There, a podcast that is not sponsored by Red Bull and will not give you wings. Sorry, that was a miss. But anyway, today we're going to be talking about Pride, both Pride in a small town, two different small towns, and what we're excited about for Pride this year.
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Kashif
Well, we are so excited to be talking to our dear friend of the new podcast, Morgan. Hi, Morgan.
Morgxn
What's up?
Kashif
Hello, hello. We'll go around and say our pronouns. So mine are he, him.
Blake
Mine are also he, him.
Morgxn
Mine are like he, they, bitch, as long as you call me sweetly. Can I say that?
Kashif
You can say that.
Blake
I like bitch.
Kashif
I kind of like biatch, but you know.
Morgxn
That sounds nice.
Kashif
Lovely. Well, we are excited to talk about your pride in a small town and what that was like. But before we talk about that, tell us a little bit about yourself. I know that you have a new single that just dropped.
Morgxn
Yeah. I'm from Nashville, Tennessee, born and raised. I think the quick liner about me would just be that I am a singer-songwriter who grew up here who couldn't have left fast enough. And then when I found myself coming back to Nashville, kind of out of defeat, if I'm being honest, it was sort of like I didn't want to come here, but I did. And all of a sudden I'm here, I met somebody, and he grew up in a very religious community. And all of a sudden I was like, wait, religion? I have no idea what that even means. And I don't understand how people grew up in a community that once they discovered who they are, they were just like, the community turned their back on them. Do you know what I mean? I know I'm talking to people who probably understand it deeply. But for me, I was like, how, you know, as my mom says, how can you give birth to somebody and then turn your back on them when they discover who they are and they're not hurting anybody? Do you know what I mean? So long story very short, my song that just came out is called Holy and the line in that is I don't care what you call it, it's holy because I don't know anything more holy than love. It doesn't matter what gender or expression that is about, but like love is holy, period. So that is a little bit about me. This past weekend, though, my husband and I own a farm in Sumner County. And basically, affirming Sumner is an event that like has no public support from like, there's no elected official that affirms anybody in Sumner County.
Kashif
And tell us how far Sumner is from Nashville.
Morgxn
Well, that's what's weird. It's one county over from Nashville. So you're not talking about forever. What you're talking about just 45 minutes away from Nashville, Tennessee is a county with not a single elected official who affirms anybody's right to be anything except for straight, white, and Christian. Um, and but you have there this like amazing community of people and i'm blown away at what we pulled off this weekend but basically affirming sumner has happened two times in the past and last year what happened is that it was held in a space that is affirming but a photo of a drag queen went so viral that they basically got all this pushback and they were like we can't support you publicly in a way that also allows us to continue doing the business that we're doing so we love you, but we can't host it. So my husband and I, somebody reached out to us and it was like, would your farm host Affirming Sumner? And we didn't think too much about it. We were like, absolutely. We're hiring security. We're getting an insurance policy. And we're going to put this on. And I don't want to be totally blasphemous to New York and LA, but I'm so uninterested in pride in big towns right now, because what happened with this pride in a small town was like the definition of what pride is to me. It was community. It was sacred. It was holy. It was, you know, I could go on forever how special this weekend was.
Kashif
Yeah. I mean, having worked for a queer org and in which we did pride celebrations throughout the state of Tennessee, I got to see some of what pride is like in a small town in places like Pulaski or in rural Tennessee. And just the people who come out. And you know that maybe this is their first pride, or they don't really have a large community. They don't necessarily have a large network. But for just a couple of hours, they get to see other queer people feeling free.
Morgxn
Yeah.
Kashif
It's an exciting thing.
Morgxn
I mean, I'm sure everyone here in this room and, you know, everyone at our pride in Sumner County had definitely heard the story about this girl who basically posted a picture of her kissing her girlfriend and her high school Christian private Christian high school denied her diploma for graduation. Do you know what I mean? And claiming like things that you said about the community. And I looked at the post. They didn't say anything except for like she posted it to her stories and was like, please go comment on this because I know that that people in my community are going to be mad at it. And I need like support. Do you know what I mean? Which is like not a blasphemous comment. It's a true comment. Anyways, she came to it. It was her first Pride Festival ever. And she came to it. I'm chills. Like she came to it with her mother. You know, that kind of experience. I've played, I headlined London Pride. You know what I mean? Like there's nothing more prideful and communal and queer and special than like seeing her and her sister and her girlfriend and her mother have this incredible experience. And we got to do it on this farm that is a firming space that my husband and I have.
Kashif
Yeah. I mean, one of the things I loved about, I love about the farm also, is that for, I believe it was for your engagement, that y'all like planted a bunch of fruit trees.
Morgxn
Yeah, it's funny. I mean, these words, like, I don't even actually know that we ever were engaged. I mean, there was just like, I think at one point,
Kashif
You were betrothed.
Morgxn
At one point, there was probably like a tree planted. And like, maybe, I think actually, we decided after the fact that we would call it engagement, or something because I mean I guess that's the beautiful thing about being queer there's no like there's no exact definition to the things that we're doing we're like creating it in real time
Blake
You make up the rules
Morgxn
It was it felt like us having land in Tennessee in 2025 in a rural place that again is 45 minutes away from here it's not so far but you feel like you're in this new space that we're creating together. And we read a lot of books about what marriage even means and when you know that you're married and all that stuff. And all these things engaged, all these words are made up. And they're also very heteronormative things that we're trying to claim for ourselves and figure out what they mean. So I think somewhere between having land, planting flute trees, well, Somewhere between having land, planting fruit trees, we were like, I think we're engaged. Do you know what I mean? And then I was like, you're my Beyonce. And then, you know.
Kashif
You're my Beyonce? All right.
Morgxn
I mean, if you're going to do the thing, it's got to be a little, it's got to be fun. Do you know what I mean? Because what's the point? This is not for bridal showers. That's not interesting to me. Gender reveals, bridal showers. That's not queer and sacred to me.
Kashif
Will you be my Beyonce? oh yes yes I will be your Beyonce I love that one of the the other really curious things for me is in your music as a person of Jewish faith who grew up in the Jewish faith Jewish tradition you are speaking to in terms of your music you're speaking to a lot of gays queers with Christian trauma. And for instance, when I first heard your music, I assumed I was like, oh, this is one of the, you know, the church girls like this. You know what I'm saying? I just made the assumption. And when we first started talking, I was like, oh, wait a minute. Can you talk a little bit about bridging that divide or how you do that so well? Because it's brilliant.
Morgxn
Oh, I don't have an answer to that. I mean, like growing up here, the thing I did was fun fact. But I did a lot of children's Christian gospel choir recording stuff. Do you know what I mean? Which is just like a thing I was hired to like sing in a choir. And then really fun fact. You're going to love this. I was the voice of Jesus for Lifeway Christian Magazine's Bible for Kids.
Kashif
No.
Morgxn
Yeah.
Kashif
Wait, wait, wait. Can you just give us a little bit of that?
Morgxn
I have not a clue what I read, what I said. But I know that I did so well that the producers apparently wanted me to also read and do their next series and be Moses. And then they basically had to stop that because they were like, I think that it would be confusing if the kids found out that Jesus is also Moses or something. And I'm like, they'd also be confused if he found out he was Jewish and gay, but like whatever, whatever you want. I don't, you know, it's weird. I don't know how these themes like find their way into it, except for that I'm extremely, I'm an empath. Do you know what I mean? Like I feel a lot of things and I feel like some of the confusion that I watch when my husband talks about his journey in, you know, like sort of where he thought he was going to go to seminary. And then like just the mere fact that he found his truth of who he loved and that like the whole community turned its back. It's like, I guess it just finds its way into the music. You know what I mean?
Blake
And I mean, it sounds to me like it is empathy. It is love. Like, I mean, you're just, you are absorbing the story of somebody that you care about, that you love.
Morgxn
Yeah.
Blake
And I mean, I know Gabe. I know your husband. Well, our stories are kind of happen parallel.
Morgxn
Yeah.
Blake
But it sounds like that's a potential place where it comes from. It's just y'alls love for each other.
Morgxn
I mean, also music is a total mystery. Do you know what I mean? I'd be lying if I had any idea how things happen or what things mean. And, you know, famously, David Bowie was like, I don't know what I'm writing about when I write about it. It just like, it just is. And for me, that feels like permission to not know. And I think like, you know, I'm a Pisces with like, you know, probably recovering OCD tendencies or something, but it's like in music, that's not my mission. Like my mission is just like transcribe the feeling into a melodic, you know, sensibility and then go from there. Like I would never, I could never tell you that I sit down to write a song called Holy. Like it's just the chords moved me towards, I remember it's, I don't care what you call it. It's holy, holy, holy. I was like, ooh, that melody feels great.
Kashif
Yeah, it felt holy.
Morgxn
Yeah.
Kashif
Yeah, I love that. I am really curious, like, what do you see or hope for prides that are not in a small town this year?
Morgxn
I mean, I would hope that prides all over the place return to a sense of the riot that started pride. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's not about, well, let me also say, like, I've thought about this a lot with commercial prides in America that are not always a place where like everybody in every color feels like they're represented in the like lineup sometimes. Do you know what I mean? It's like it's like if you look perfect, you're there. But like that's not my journey. Do you know what I mean? So I would hope that pride's all over the place. Reclaim that sort of sense of like every color under the sun, every body shape under the sun. Like it's, you know, pride, of course, started as a riot. But like right now in 2025, it feels like pride continues as this necessary form of communion. And there's like a sacredness to it. And that's the only reason I'm going to show up for something prideful this month is like if there's a sense of community and urgency. Because if it's just for show, I just don't care. Do you know what I mean? If that, like sometimes, honestly, this month, I've been like, my version of loving myself, this pride is saying no. Do you know what I mean? It's saying like, I'm not showing up to that thing, you know, because you're not respecting my boundaries and my time and et cetera, et cetera. And so me being prideful is also self-respecting myself. You know what I mean?
Kashif
I love that. Yeah, I think that's a great tip. Well, thank you so much. A great tip. Okay. Well, anyway, on that note, we're going to take a quick break and more who's going to be there after this.
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Morgxn
Thanks.
Blake
I did help plant a few of those fruit trees.
Morgxn
You're in there. You're fruity.
Blake
I think maybe like an apple and a plum.
Morgxn
Yeah, they're thriving.
Blake
Well, I want to reap the harvest at some point. So I'll have to visit and
Kashif
I want to reap the harvest too. Wait a minute.
Blake
You didn't plant any trees.
Morgxn
Come on in. You know, it's a gay queer thing. You have like immediate access to reap the harvest of this farm. Okay.
Blake
I love that.
Kashif
Wonderful
Blake
I was curious just because when we did Pride in my small hometown back in Colorado, there were very big security concerns.
Morgxn
Great question.
Blake
And I also kind of intentionally, I knew you were coming in, so I wanted to intentionally not pay attention to what happened this weekend so that I could kind of come in fresh. So give me, I would love like a snapshot. Like what did the day look like and were there any concerns?
Morgxn
I can answer all of that because I think it's like it's a blueprint that like people should be thinking about how they can do this in their small town all across America. Like Pride in the Heartland, new series. Can't wait.
Kashif
Ooh, on HBO.
Morgxn
Can't wait. Call me. You know, we just brass tacks. We hired security, armed security. For this year, we didn't release the address and everything was in RSVP. I think in the future, we're still going to have security. We had insurance. Security, insurance, got to do that. We didn't release the address without RSVP. Still, we're going to require RSVP and we checked people in. Like we had like a security line and, and cars were checked in before the cars went to park. You know what I mean? So that's like both unfortunate and also like you just got to do it. Do you know what I mean? We had some people on the internet, you know, talking about the blasphemy of like how they've, how this pride has gone quote underground. It didn't go underground. There's just nowhere. There's no ground they were allowed to be on except for the queer people who owned some land in it. You know, and we were very aware of who those names were and we were like making sure they weren't on the RSVP list. But we had 500 RSVPs in this small town.
Blake
That's amazing.
Morgxn
Do you know what I mean? Less than that showed up. It also rained, but like at least 300 people showed up. And that is huge for what this was. And again, you know, if you look at like the election, even this past year, like, you know, there were more people than I expected who voted for Gloria Johnson in this county. Like they're there. They they want community. They want to be affirmed. And, you know, I love that we got to do it. But we had seven musicians, I think, play. You know, we had far too loud AV and DJ like do the sound. Gabe built a stage, which is just a skill set that I don't have.
Blake
I'm amazed, but not surprised.
Morgxn
I'm, quote, literally same phrase. Like, I can't tell you how many interviews I've given talking about things being built at the farm while I'm giving an interview and my husband is like building it. Do you know what I mean?
Kashif
Amazing. Aspirations.
Morgxn
We built a stage and it looks so, from what I'm told, it looks like the perfect Christian Bible camp stage, you know, like wooden. And at the end, we like stacked the chairs on there and it looks so precious so that we can have it for future years.
Blake
Maybe put on some kneelers. I mean, for communion or other things.
Morgxn
Maybe put on, I mean, maybe put on plays. Like, are we like, are we doing more concert series at the farm? That would be cool.
Kashif
Oh my gosh. Yes.
Blake
Absolutely.
Morgxn
It's, it kind of is, feels like it's going to evolve into something. But the organizers of it in years past were the collab in Hendersonville, which is a co-working space, and Earth First, which is a plant and vintage store in Gallatin, together with PFLAG, who had done a picnic. Basically, they had done it in the past and, again, were looking for land. So that group plus Gabe and I with the farm, we were the group that did it. And then raising money through donations, and that's how we made everything happen.
Blake
Very cool.
Kashif
That's incredible. Wow.
Morgxn
And yeah, the number is like surprising to people because they're like, oh, did like 20 people come? I'm like, no, like we're talking hundreds of RSVPs. And, you know, this is the thing. Like, here's my question to the room. Like I opened for Alok. I'm sure we all know who Alok is. And Alok, who lives in New York, you know, very, you know, feel like they're very coastal or whatever, was kind of like uninterested in what's happening in the coastal areas. Because I think when you have queer people gathering in rural spaces, there's an element of there's a bit of danger to it. There's like, what's the safety going to be like? And we made sure to cover that base, you know, but it's like there's something more urgent and something. I'm just way more interested in what's happening in our rural spaces than I am the cities.
Kashif
Yeah. And I think there's something braver about it, I dare say. There's something that feels earthy and organic and imperfect. And like, we're still trying to figure it out. But queer people have always existed in the Midwest, in Appalachia. And it is important for us not to be overlooked. I say us because I'm a transplant to the South and also lived in and came out and lived in rural Tennessee.
Morgxn
You play a vital role in being a transplant in the South. And like, you know, we've talked about this separately, but it's like, I don't know your experience exactly, but I do know that like you being a transplant here, you represent something that can help this place move forward. And that feels, you know, not to plug myself all the time, but my album is called Heartland. And in the Heartland, statistically, queer people exist. And I want to see more people moving to the heartland and helping the heartland evolve because it needs more queer, diverse voices. And that's what this weekend felt like to me. It felt like so diverse and so lovely.
Kashif
I love that.
Blake
That's amazing.
Kashif
Yeah. I think speaking of the heartlands, Blake, I know that last year you went back to Lamar to headline at Lamar's Pride Fest. And I want to know what that was like going back to your hometown. First, actually, tell us a little bit about Lamar.
Blake
Yeah.
Kashif
And it is a small town.
Blake
It is a small town. I guess just like a little snapshot of Lamar. I'm not sure what the population is now. It's been steadily shrinking over the years. I would put it probably somewhere around 6,000. But especially in that part of the country, small towns are not like a little town that's just like off a big city. They are out in the middle of nowhere. There's like a 50 mile radius around us where there's no other town. Like if we wanted to go shopping at a shopping mall, that was at least a two hour drive. And many of the folks in the smaller towns around us would come to Lamar to go to a grocery store. And so we at least had some stoplights. Yes.
Kashif
I will also interrupt to say, if you did watch Oprah and Gayle's cross country adventure, Lamar is a place.
Blake
How dare you?
Kashif
I gotta bring it up because I'm still mad at it, okay? Lamar is a place where they stopped.
Morgxn
This is an amazing fun fact.
Kashif
Yeah, Lamar is a place where they stopped and Oprah got called a particular name that was actually the first time that I ever heard that. And she said it on the Oprah Winfrey show. We'll leave that particular name to the imagination.
Blake
To YouTube, yeah.
Kashif
Yeah, to YouTube because it's on there.
Oprah
In a car with my best friend, Gail. At times we were laughing so hard we could barely breathe. and at times we drove so long we could barely walk and at times we literally feared for our lives. This was one of those times.
Kashif
Anyway, that was honestly, that was when Lamar first came into my consciousness so many years ago. And then, of course, years later, I meet Blake.
Blake
So yeah, that was our that's our very loose connection.
Kashif
Blake's like, I'm from Lamar.
Morgxn
You're like, oh, OK, great.
Blake
Yeah.
Morgxn
Wild.
Blake
Yes. And I will just say that that picture is not all the way inaccurate. Okay. It's a very interesting place. But yeah, I obviously grew up there. My family grew up in the surrounding area. I mean, it's just like pretty much all of my family is in and around Lamar. And I grew up very much not out of the closet. I was a nice young man, very studious, very athletic. I was the perfect little child because when you're perfect, you can sort of hide in plain sight. So when I found out that they were doing Pride, because this is just their third annual Pride, they started doing it two years ago. The organizers are amazing and courageous and dynamic. I can't say enough good things about them, but they organized it three years ago. There have always been security concerns. It's the only one in Southeast Colorado. So it's not just Lamar Pride Fest. It's like Pride Fest for Southeast Colorado, the surrounding area. So people from the surrounding small towns come to Lamar too. But yeah, that's Lamar. It's very rural. I know sometimes when people think of Colorado, they think of mountains, but it's actually more kind of like Kansas, very flat, grazing, pastures. My family were ranchers. And so, yeah, that's kind of what Lamar looks like.
Morgxn
That's the thing. I mean, when you have these major cities that you know, you know the Denvers and like, you know the the nashvilles and all of these things that sort of are the the major points of america there's like there's places that are not that far from them that become a whole different world you know so then very quickly Gabe grew up in sumner county which is the county where our pride was and like to go back to your hometown as a as a out proud person working for and performing at this thing i bet that was you know i don't want to put words in your mouth but i bet that was like super fulfilling for the journey that you have been on, I assume.
Blake
It was. It was very full circle. It was, and I want to hear about your experiences as well, kind of performing on a, I guess, a smaller stage in this, you know, setting. But, you know, I kind of, I kept imagining like some younger version of myself out there in the audience. You know, I kept thinking of myself down there looking up and seeing a possible future that I did not see at all when I was growing up, you know, and that was reinforced by the fact the fact that what you were saying about the people that show up to a small town pride, like my high school football coach showed up and got to talk with him. When it's a town full of people that you have daily interactions with, and then they show up to pride, there's something about that connection. There's something about that communion, as you put it, that really, it kind of opened me up. It was like, there are ways in which I belong here that I didn't know that I belonged.
Morgxn
That's a good point for America to hear in this moment because I have to check my own bias. Do you know what I mean? I have to reframe my own opinion about small towns, being in a small town. And to your question of like, yes, I've performed my song Home around the world, 10,000 people in Trafalgar Square for Pride. Do you know what I mean? It's a top 10 record. It's got a lot of streams, et cetera, et cetera. But, you know, the back home to the place where I belong, there's nothing like it. Singing that on stage, built by my husband at our farm in a small town for Pride, like that is home to me. Do you know what I mean?
Blake
And the thing about that is, is that people prove that they are home to you because it didn't cost them nothing to show up at Pride. In a small town.
Morgxn
It costs you something.
Blake
People know what other people are doing, right? They recognize you on the street. So it cost them something to show up at pride. It cost my football coach something to show up at pride. I mean, he couldn't just come and disappear into the crowd. That's not how it works in a small town. And so there is a sense of home. There is a sense of family because you recognize you gave up your comfort, your safety to show up and to have proximity to me and to acknowledge that we are together, that we love each other and that we are good the way that we are.
Kashif
Yeah. Blake, I'm wondering, what was it like when you went back and saw that mural of you for the first time that's in Lamar? I'm curious, did you look on that with new eyes? How did you feel about that person that's painted there?
Blake
Okay, so there's a little... I was a catcher. I played baseball. I was a catcher.
Morgxn
No comment.
Blake
Yeah, we're going to skip right over that one because I've gained some more skills since then. But I am forever painted as a catcher on this. Wow. Wow. Okay. Okay. Okay. Refocusing.
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Morgxn
This is the clip.
Kashif
Not being bottom shamed. Wait a minute.
Blake
And so I'm on this little placard squatting in my catcher stance.
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Kashif
I mean, just, just, We're just going to power through it.
Morgxn
Thank you.
Blake
Keep on going. We need to clean this up.
Kashif
We need to clean this up. Sorry for all the flip-flopping. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Blake
Okay. The water is clear.
[EVEN MORE LAUGHTER]
Kashif
Cleansing breath. Oh, my God. Okay.
Blake
Okay.
Kashif
Yes. So you were squatting.
Blake
There is this mural. There's this mural of me playing baseball. Playing baseball. You know, I've never really been comfortable with it. And I think it's because I recognized that the version of me that's there is not the full version. You know what I mean? It never felt. It reminds me of a time when I was doing everything that I could to hold up a facade and to be everything that I could be to throw people off the scent. And that's the person that I see on the mural.
Kashif
Yeah. So it's like you got to paint another image of yourself going back to Pride Fest and being up there.
Blake
There was a way in which I could stand up in front of people and say, hey, actually, that kid that's on that mural was gay, too. This dude that's standing up here waving this rainbow flag is the same person that's on your mural.
Kashif
Yeah.
Blake
And I need you to recognize that, you know. But I also there was a part of me that was like, I also need like the younger Blakes in Lamar to see that, too. I need them to recognize that there is a place for them.
Kashif
That's powerful.
Morgxn
Yeah.
Kashif
All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Blake
All right, so before we go to any party, IRL, we're introverts. We need to know who's going to be there.
Kashif
Exactly.
Blake
I'm not just going to go to some party with some energy vampires that are going to leave me feeling sucked to dry.
Kashif
A bunch of renics.
Blake
In the bad way.
Kashif
In the bad way. Okay. If it's going to be the good way, but you know.
Blake
Then maybe.
Kashif
Yeah.
Blake
Yeah. That's some good energy.
Kashif
Yeah.
Blake
So we're going to play a little game where we're going to ask the name randomizer on my phone. Who's going to be there? And then depending on whatever names that randomizer spits out, we got to decide, are we going to the party? Are we staying home?
Kashif
Yeah.
Blake
All right. So here we go. First name from the randomizer is Marsha Blackburn. Already a no for me.
Kashif
Oh, God. Oh, I mean, we could just stop right there.
Blake
We could. For those who aren't in Tennessee, people probably know who she is. But for those who aren't in Tennessee, we'll explain in a second.
Kashif
Yeah.
Blake
James Baldwin.
Kashif
Oh, Jesus. Okay.
Blake
It's getting interesting.
Kashif
It's getting interesting. No.
Blake
Donald Trump.
Kashif
Oh, my God. This random, what kind of, who is this randomizer?
Blake
I don't, it's suspicious.
Kashif
Yes, that's very suspicious.
Blake
Okay, Marsha Blackburn, James Baldwin, Donald Trump. And Donald
Kashif
Trump. O-M-F-G.
Blake
I mean, you couldn't resist, if James Baldwin is going to be there, you couldn't resist.
Kashif
Oh, because he's going to take them on.
Blake
Yes.
Kashif
I mean, now we have to remember Uncle Jimmy and his sort of two sides, because he might be in the corner smoking a cigarette, talking to like Nikki Giovanni, Or he might be fighting with them. So he might be. So Marsha Blackburn, before we talk about that, is, you know, the worst, one of our state senators. And you'll know her because of her hair, probably. And you'll also know Donald Trump because of his hair. So they're kindred. And she defends everything that he does. And I think she is the worst. And her policy, she just goes missing. Nobody really knows. Like, in all of my years of living in the state of Tennessee, I've never seen her. We don't really know when her town halls are going to be. She's kind of secretive about them.
Blake
She just acts like she's locked into her position forever. And therefore has to put in no effort aside from tweeting out horrendous things.
Kashif
Yes. It's very Tennessee. It's very Tennessee chicanery. Like this is a dynasty and this is my reign.
Blake
Yeah.
Kashif
So, okay. I'm going to this party. But here's why. Because I know that in all likelihood, like Uncle Jimmy, he's going to have, you know, maybe one or two glasses of cognac and he's going to take them on. And Marsha Blackburn wouldn't even be able to get a word in edgewise because I could see him like doing his wide-eyed leaning in and saying, you know, yes, because America, no, I understand the situation down in Tennessee because what happened in Memphis in 1964, you know, I think, or 1968 during the sanitation strike and he would like school them on history.
Blake
Yeah.
Kashif
And I think Donald Trump would probably just, I could see him just like tapping his feet and just being so like annoyed. I think he would probably leave.
Blake
Oh, he would definitely leave or he would fall asleep or he would go to McDonald's.
Kashif
He would go have a fish fillet.
Blake
Yeah. I would go as well.
Kashif
Yeah.
Blake
I just want to be present for literally whatever James Baldwin wants to do that night.
Kashif
Yeah.
Blake
But I might end up going to jail.
Kashif
That's the, that's the trouble. I think if they even, if she even got up in his face or just even spoke, tried to talk when he was talking, oh, it's on and pop.
Blake
Yeah.
Kashif
I just, it would not be okay.
Blake
This is the reason I've been going to the gym.
Kashif
Yeah. Same.
Blake
It's been leading up to this moment.
Kashif
Same. To just like, you know, okay, if I need to in defense, in defense of Uncle Jimmy, you know.
Blake
Yeah.
Kashif
I would definitely not be able to sit and be quiet if she tried to talk out of her face to him or say anything, you know. But then he would also be talking over their heads. So I wonder, I don't know that that conversation would be in, like it probably wouldn't be a conversation because.
Blake
I don't think it would be productive.
Kashif
It wouldn't be productive.
Blake
But I'd still want to know what he has to say.
Kashif
Yes, I would want to hear just like and see his, just his cadence, you know. And he'd say like, yes, I have been told to love my country, but my country has never loved me. And what do you say about that, Senator Blackburn?
Blake
Oh my gosh, I would love that.
Kashif
I mean, oh God.
Blake
Yeah, that would nourish me. Okay, so we'd both go to watch James Baldwin and to maybe fight some people.
Kashif
To maybe fight some people, drink some cognac and hold his cigarettes for him if he needed to.
Blake
100%.
Kashif
Not hold my purse, hold my cigarettes.
Blake
That's right, that's right. All right, that's all we've got for today. If you have any suggestions that you would like to give us for what names should be in our randomizer, you can always reach out to us at Instagram or TikTok. Handle is just who's gonna be there pod on both of those. Or if you have any other comments, questions, feel free to leave us a rating, send us some suggestions. We are always open to hearing from you. Kashif, it is nice to meet.
Kashif
It is sad to part.
Blake
Until next week, y'all take care. We will see you then. Until two weeks from now.
Kashif
Yes. Two weeks from now.
Blake
We'll see you then.
Kashif
Bye.
Blake
Bye.
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Kashif
Yay, we did it, we did it!